Have you considered that there are multitudes of people who have spent decades of their lives collecting piles of observations. This data is stored in their brains, stuffed into filing cabinets, loaded onto hard drives and disks, piled in boxes, placed onto shelves, piled on table tops, hidden behind closet doors, and found toppling out of the corners of offices and storage rooms. All of this comes from individual observations and are collections of organized teams who track others to learn from their experiences.

This alone cannot be classified as either information or knowledge.

Consider others who have attended the universities of the world. They have attended lectures of noted academics who speak great and swelling words about all the data they have collected. They discuss with great dexterity their interpretation of it all. Those who are students then matriculate. Some do so maybe with great honors and advanced degrees. They go on to write a multitude of articles and books on various matters. The may travel and lecture and receive the praise of many distinguished personages, forums, and agencies.

All of this does not yet establish that they have attained to either information or knowledge.

It is not amazing that with all of this they suffer awful depression as they enter old age and realize that they have never risen above the status of the silly and the fool. They realize that they do not even yet know what is the source of knowledge. They do not perceive the purpose of knowledge. They do not even know how to use knowledge. What they thought was good was shown to them that in eternity to be the source of great evil.

Empty Information

Is this not the epitome of great emptiness? Is it not vanity? Does this not help explain why as many college level students observe and perceive emptiness of life and purpose? Is this not cause for many students contemplate suicide? Collegiate years and old age are the periods in life in which people do contemplate taking their lives. The young because they see no usefulness or value to life. The aged because they recognize that they have labored for empty reasons and they despair. The Bible is very clear about the reasons for making man and reasons for his service which are rewarded. But without knowledge, all is vanity.

Knowledge and information presume a moral base, according to Webster’s early dictionary. This is not an amoral matter as some might be want to think. Knowledge is irrevocably founded upon an individual’s acknowledgment of and fear of God, the Creator of All. It is the moral relationship of information and knowledge and the God which makes it all possible for one to perceive purpose and the usefulness of knowledge. One cannot organize the data of observation and experiences without knowing its purpose or moral significance. Its relationship to the Creator God and His created universe is primary to understanding.

When we need advice, where should we turn for this advice?

The first place is the Scriptures. Because the Scriptures have been given to us by the Almighty, Eternal, Omniscient Creator. It is always relevant, always true and unchanging. Sometimes we get the wrong notion that the Bible is old and therefore outdated, old fashioned, and lacking in usefulness in our day. But the truths of our eternal God never grow out of fashion nor usefulness because they manifest His character.

A second place to go to obtain advice might be our brothers and sisters in Christ. As we consider advice from them, we need to be sure that they hold to the ultimate standard in giving advice. This means that they are well studied in the Scriptures. The advice they give needs to come out of the scriptures as it is literally understood. Their advice cannot contradict Scriptures. It is never right to do wrong. Whatsoever is not of faith is sin. (Romans 14:23) The foundation of faith is the evidence of the sure Word of God. (Romans 10:17)

It is always wrong to try to found righteous decisions upon the advice of the atheist, the heathen, the idolater, or any unbeliever. These sources or persons do not have knowledge concerning right things to do. In fact they technically have no knowledge at all. (Proverbs 1:7;  Proverbs 2:1-9) All they can share with you are observations and experiences. But because they fear not God they cannot put form or shape to these observations and experiences. One necessary form is that of righteousness. Another is perspective. They do not know right paths and are ever stumbling in the darkness of sin.

For a Christian to give advice which is questionable, or contrary to direct statements of Scripture is also a grievous thing. (1John 2:10)  A spiritual person should be able to discern between the spirits and to know when others might be leading them the wrong way. (1 John 4:1) The big question to ask is would God make this same decision? If not, then we ought not make that decision either. One of the most common errors today is to imply that something is right because other “Christians” do it. All this needs to be measured and quantified by what the Scriptures actually say and teach. Yes Paul the apostle called disciples to be “followers of me.” But the condition is “even as I am of Christ.” (1 Corinthians 4:16; 11:1)  But be aware that “for many walk…are the enemies of the cross of Christ:) (Philippians 3:17-18)

So the call is to be perfect minded in Christ Jesus. Make right decisions. Make those decisions because they agree with Christ. Do not fall from the place of blessing. Know your decision is correct because you fear God above all else.

(The following comment was made to the article referenced above. It brings up common but frequently relevant objections. In the following reply, I addressed submitted question, as the article does,  “Science not rational?” Perhaps in later commentaries I will address the questioning of God being vengeful, jealous, and regretful as being in conflict with God being love incarnate.)

Science not rational? if we want to bring logic into it, we should note that god is well known to be Vengeful, Jealous (Deut 5v9), and Regretful (Gen 6v6) yet above all things Love incarnate.

Reply to the objection:

This article is interesting because many today are implying that truth is only attained by the rational thinking of man and such thinking is independent of authority. This article says that “science has no logical rational basis.” Please do not think that it says that scientists make no attempt to be logical. It also does not say that they are utterly irrational. It is speaking about the basis of their presumptions.

While the naturalist would imply that he has no absolute truth, he does imply that the adherent to God is absolutely wrong. They imply that whatever truth which may be known is only available by the scientific method, that is the material touchable things perceived by the five senses. But such arguments cannot deal with questions of why, nor deal with even the issues of defining and practicing logic and reasoning.

The article seems to claim that logic can only come from God, an eternal, unchanging God. Logic itself cannot be the result of random chance. Logic and randomness are contradictory in nature. One is specific. The other can never be locked into predictability. Logic is that which emanates out of the very nature and character of God. We are talking about the never changing God. God created man to have a nature to understand and interact with logic and therefore man can be logical.

This article also indicates that Christians have a basis for belief because they have history on their side. They have the declarations, which are recorded, which are preserved, and which are authoritative and logical. The Bible is the prime text of history. Their history and their foundation of logic is based upon the whole of the 66 books of the Bible and upon the revealed character and nature of God, which is impeccably consistent. Many who try to argue against this normally take things out of the context of the whole.

Be sure to keep in mind that a primary claim of this article is that there are presumptions on both sides of the issue. Both presumptions are based in faith. It said, “‘All knowledge is built on ultimate assumptions which cannot be proven directly, but have to be accepted on the basis of faith.’ Thus it is not as we have been programmed to believe, Faith Vs Reason – but rather Faith Vs Faith.”

This article was presented to cause some critical thinking.

Feb 142009

We live in a world which wants the gentleness of Christian character. We want love. We want kindness, we want joy. We want purpose. We want peace. We want exercise of patience. We want justice.

We want all the benefits of Christian character and conduct. But we do not want Christ. We want it without being confronted with Christianity and the Bible in the school place, in the work place, and in the government place. “And surely don’t bring it into my home!” so it is said.

You can take a sponge and doctor it up with strawberries and whipped cream. Oh yes, the sponge is even yellow and looks like a yellow sponge cake. With all the flavoring, with all the toppings, it may look nice. It may look Christian. But without the core being real, the dessert is spoiled. Christianity without the reality of God is empty.

G. Eliot observed concerning those who try to cling to Christian morality, “They are rid of the Christian God and now believe all the more firmly that they must cling to Christian morality.”  It is foolishness.

Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche rightly states,  “When one gives up the Christian faith, one pulls the right to Christian morality out from under one’s feet.”

What are issues of “Christian” or Biblical morality? Honesty, truth, justice, kindness, compassion, charity, marriage, personal responsibility, government, family, the right to life, the keeping of promises, graciousness, patience, liberty, the right to pursuit of happiness,  respect of persons, respect for diversity of ethnicity, the right to property, the foundations for truth and logic, the foundations for law itself, the ability to differentiate good and bad, to distinguish right from wrong, peace and warfare, etc.

When one departs from respect of the Creator God of the universe as described in the Bible, all of the above attributes become non issues. One has no cause to expect such rights or privileges.

What is lost when these are lost? A college can no longer argue for honesty from the student. Cheating has no restraint. The right for expectation of a valid diploma ceases.  Just scoring of quizzes, exams, projects, and papers cannot be expected. The school can change requirements for graduation with impunity. No promises should be expected. The changing of fees and failure to keep accurate records of payments can become random. Professors and instructors no longer have to teach truth or be consistent.

Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche further said, “Christianity is a system, a whole view of things thought out together. By breaking one main concept out of it, the faith in God, one breaks the whole: nothing necessary remains in one’s hands. Christianity presupposes that man does not know, cannot know, what is good for him, what evil: he believes in God, who alone knows it. Christian morality is a command; its origin is transcendent; it is beyond all criticism, all right to criticism; it has truth only if God is the truth — it stands and falls with faith in God.” (Twilight of the Idols: Skirmishes Of An Untimely Man)

Once one removes God out of the equation, then all discussion of morals leaves the picture. In an amoral situation we no longer have cause for complaint whether it involves situations of murder, theft, rape, cruelty, etc. for now there is no right or wrong. Fatalism rules. Get used to it, for that is the way it is. Is this really the way you want it to be?

I suppose one might think that this is the end of the story, except God, our Creator, does exist and intervenes in the affairs of men even today.  He is a God who has properly expressed Himself both in nature and by special revelation. He blesses and judges actively. Because He is almighty, ever present and all knowing, our actions are ever being monitored. In His providence He brings circumstances to bear on us according to our obedience. He also will deal with each one in the coming judgment according to His appointed pleasure.

I could have as easily stated that even if you do know from where your ethical system comes, your ethical system is still likely to be defective.

In reality, ethical systems which come from man’s estimation are in fact defective. Ethics cannot logically come from man.

Ethics is
“the science of human duty;
the science of right and of right character and conduct;
moral science;…” F&W Dictionary 1896

Science is “knowledge gained and verified by exact observation and correct thinking, especially as methodically formulated and arranged in a rational system;…” F&W Dictionary 1896

The Bible tells us that knowledge is inherent and intrinsic in the nature and character of God. God is eternal, Omniscient, Omnipresent, and Omnipotent. God is and so knowledge is and flows from Him. Apart from Him is no knowledge. (example: Psalm 139, Psalm 19)

God is also God of creation. Through design God manifest His knowledge in His creation and made man capable of searching out the deep things of God and to interact with knowledge and to use it. This is where observation and correct thinking come into play. One must take what he learns and correctly apply what he gains.

Therefore as man by knowledge searches out human duty, he ascertains right and wrong. As he discerns the nature and character of God, he then learns about “right and of right character and conduct.” In particular, specific information applying to this effort is provided by God through divinely inspired and preserved Scriptures. Of course this makes man accountable, for his manipulation of facts must be true.

If man fails in this required manipulation of facts and truth he denies knowledge, that which is right and true. He therefore corrupts knowledge and the corrupts the image of his Creator. Here we see rationality set aside and a form of living which is irrational. Man denies the source and by extension even the existance of exact knowledge. This is viewed in the system of the atheist.

The naturalist takes knowledge of creation. By investigation he comes up with principles of life. Yet because he does not acknowledge the Creator and the Creator’s express written will but only the creation, his perspective is distorted because he is defective in exact observation and thinking. He assigns to portions of creation perspective and characteristics which belong to the Creator only. In this he denies the source of knowledge and its applications which should be related to correct perspective. By this he perverts knowledge and comes to false conclusions. Such perversion applies to his understanding of right. Therefore his ethics is perverted.

Natural selection is useless as determiner of right. Everything falls to random probability. If guidance is inferred in any way, it is no more natural. It then defers to some form of design which is preplanned. The suggestion of design or guidance in any way argues that God exists. Then the knowledge of a Creator demonstrating omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence becomes the obvious.

When knowledge is either denied or perverted, then issues of right become undiscernible. Often the issue of relativity arises. What is true for you and what is true for me are both true. Should they be contradictory, they are still viable to be true. When it comes to ethics and the application of right in the lives of such relativistic individuals is capable of great harm. Conflict can readily develop.

Except there be the cognizance of the Creator and conformity to His wisdom there can be no unity in thought or practice. Right cannot be determined.

The only possible straight forward ethical concept possible to man is when man turns to God his Creator and correctly draws from Him that by which he should order his life. For only in God our Creator is knowledge, understanding, and wisdom. All other considerations are void of logic.

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